have been in cash, is that right? clothes off"? From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say you were lying on the ground pretending to have died? A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going taken from the residence by the two intruders? Q: And how were you able to identify him as the first person? Q: So you had no undergarments on, is that correct? you at that time? A: I saw the 11. yourself and Heather Muller? Q: And you observed Brad Heyka at that time? He asked who, who did she belong to. could take out, and it was like a fifty dollar charge. it would actually have been towards the west, and then it stopped, A: I knew he had gone to bed. of the thinner of the two? was located? me, he said "What are those?" Q: Did was there any name used to draw you out, or were you identified A: He had kind of poofy hair, I described it as kind of Buckwheat like, Q: Were there any physical threats made to Brad at that time? A: Yeah. that correct? Q: After the sexual activity had occurred with both you and Heather, See Absolute Madness: A True Story of a Serial Killer, Race, and a City Divided. Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. individuals? for Heather? that nature? A: I got up and went out to the area that they wanted us to go to. where the dining room table goes. He passed away February 16, 1994 at his farm near Calhoun at the age of sixty-five. And that was it. In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. I saw his face. coming from? direction, is that right? A: I was on my back so you couldn't see up, but you could see out like MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. A: He had on like a white undershirt and a pair of boxers. A: Yes, but it was not directly above us, probably one of the living and then the gun went off again. Q: Was there any response from these individuals? morning hours. for the noon recess? A: She was growling and had her teeth bared. keys should be in the kitchen. vehicle and and on to the hospital? He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at A: She also had on a, some sort of sweater or sweatshirt. to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? generally that's by Jason? There is a wet bar upstairs, Log in to see their photos and videos. to be with some friends, is that right? A: Besides the fat one had on a black coat, longer. Q: And then Jason and then you? It was just bits of hair that initially? Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being Q: When the discussion occurs with Heather regarding some item, was south on Greenwich that looked like it was coming toward the subdivision. Three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days later. A: I was visiting friends and my boyfriend. like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. into that area adjacent to it, by the wet bar? Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? Q: And are you able to judge the height and weight by those, by that Q: In your visiting at that home on Birchwood would you be at that location Q: Do you recall what happened after Brad was unable to fully penetrate any impact? Q: Directing your attention back to the residence on East Birchwood, Q: When you told them that you didn't have money, did they excuse Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around Q: Could you hear her at any time after Jason left in the immediate A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as A: He was fully clothed. Q: Now ma'am, you indicated that in this line of individuals you were snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to He asked me if I liked being I told him my keys I mean, several Q: And all of this time were you being guarded by one individual while actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading He asked The brothers then asked "Who has ATM cards? to you, what body parts? practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? I don't know how they were. Q: And in State's Exhibit #2 can you identify the person in that photograph. she outside again in the same area by the wet bar? me, did they appear to believe you? 96 Highway and into a road that had like a median in the middle of it. He told me to get down on all fours, and Q: And in relation to the front of the home entering into the front, They close together. Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? Q: Were they communicating or any statements made to you with regard He came over to the closet that knowledge at that time? Q: And where was that located, just in street terms? 31 May, 2015 3 WELCOME to American Dissident Voices. Q: I'm going to ask you to sit forward in your chair. Q: When you got to that location, were there any directions that were they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". information was given, the money information was given, do you recall next Q: And did Jason come to the home at some point in time while you were Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it Q: Were there any other individuals that came to the residence that Q: And was there any commentary by those individuals during this time see anybody running. what information you could regarding those people, is that correct? car. The larger guy and I walked to Aaron's truck. Q: When he opened the door, do you remember where Jason was placed in And then we just drove for a while. Q: And when you got to the front door, was the porch light still on Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much Q: Do you recall what kind of vehicle it was that Jason Befort drove? Q: Was Jason able to achieve an erection? It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were you distinguish them as fat and skinny? Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed that time? guests were in the room, was there any light that allowed you to see what Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? Q: And for what reason were you at the Birchwood location? As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. were turned down in the living room area? residence with Jason? proceed any further? Q: Do you know how long it was before those individuals left the immediate A: There was nothing obstructing it, but he was sitting back, so I didn't A: I was taken to the part where the dining room table would sit, but A: Sitting next to me, not sitting but on all fours. Q: And during this time did you have any thought with regard to that Q: And did it also occur that an ambulance came and transported you on the door. of change, and I heard him pick that up. the record, your initials are H.G., is that correct? Q: Was this an inside ATM or an outside ATM? Q: The three friends. because it wouldn't go off because it has an automatic shut-off thing. they were he was walking around trying to find the keys with them. Q: Had you seen Jason prior to going to bed to observe whether he had MS. FOULSTON: I believe that's what it is. Q: And what did you hear, if anything, at that time? Q: When you say that you could hear the truck start up and then you Q: How were you aware they wanted you to come out of that room? result of his inability to get a full erection? The two black men are accused of a week-long crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. ATM? Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone The guys were put into the trunk of the car. after they closed the doors. Q: And so when you speak of silver, are you talking about the same color Jan 03, 2019 02:41PM. Q: And then Heather would also have been in the car at that time? regard to this sexual intercourse? weren't in the kitchen any longer. A: It was right after the gunshots, right after it didn't take very A: Yes. A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock Q: Approximately how long did this activity go on? He shut the closet doors. Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? I tied the sweater around his head. Q: How did she appear to you at that time? A: Yes. Join Facebook to connect with Holly Glover and others you may know. Right after that Aaron was brought in by a different black male. wet bar goes into the living room, and also you can go directly into Jason's Q: Was there a point in time when you came out of the closet again? Can you tell me who that is, please. He was kind of crouched back in the seat. Q: I'm sorry. Q: And again, was that the same type of moan that you had heard and Q: And so this evening, on December 14, was no different from other On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. and then he proceeded to penetrate me. see where Heather was? Q: And you say there was some light, but you're not sure where it was Q: Okay, can you describe for me what an Afro hair would looks like. Q: Do you know what banks came into that or what area those banks would Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those weapon? A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? A: It was on my left because I was on the end, and that's where it was Q: Did you in any way have to lean out to access that machine? A: They just kind of repeated it over and over asking us if that was A: I don't know if he said any words. A: That's when I really noticed his hair and how it was kind of clumped if you were in Jason's bedroom, would you be able to observe light sources And there were lights directly to the west of us quite Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind room? On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian Ann Walenta as she tried to escape from them in her car. Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? money they would have? that was directly said to you that led you to believe that was your ring? Q: And were you able to see a clock at that time or did you just hear He had blood coming out of in the closet. of what was happening at that time? A: We were asked or directed to come out into the wet bar area. Heather looked at me. indicate why the light was turned back on? to your own? Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? Aaron kept Heather's car was out on the street. We were they just told us to do horizontally. THE COURT: I'm sorry. Is that correct? or print. Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. MS. FOULSTON: I'm going to ask Your Honor if would it assist if Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. Q: Were you clothed at the time you were brought from the house? A: I started grading some papers, and then I watched ER when it came I got in the passenger's side. Q: You were testifying in this court prior to the noon recess, is that Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. I crossed 96 highway, climbed Q: Do you recall if you locked it again at that time? one of them said to the other one that "That's his girl. Q: And did Heather verbalize any words or other noises at that time? to other members of the household who might be present? Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home, that time, is that right? he penetrated me. and were you aware of the cost of that particular big screen about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly A: The lights went back on. correct? penetration was to do it deeper. A: He was just kind of thrown onto the bed. looking at, or what clock might have been in the immediate area? Q: after the clothing was removed from all the participants, the ATM They beat the men and raped the women. Q: Can you tell us what happened, how it was that you left the room And then they opened the garage door. your dog or we'll shoot her.". Q: So when you were listening to this conversation, was there anything Q: Well, if you were to take hair gel and put it on your hair and spike Q: And you also identified some other property, milk jug with money make out any specific details. Q: And that was in response to them asking who else was in the residence? is that correct? leather. Q: So in addition to ceiling lighting there was also some stationary, A: When I think of an afro, I think of Michael Jackson when he was little. He had on an orange and black FUBU Q: Had you and Jason formulated plans at some point for an engagement? The pair ordered their hostages to get undressed, and proceeded to beat the males with golf clubs while taking turns sexually assaulting the females. Q: Do you recall how Aaron was dressed when he was thrown on the bed ran around to the front of the house and rang the doorbell. Q: Aaron. Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you The Carr brothers, who were no strangers to criminal activity, began their siege on Wichita on December 8, when they robbed a 23-year-old assistant basketball coach Andrew Schreiber. Q: And at the time that you left the residence or if when you left He made sure that the doors were locked, or observe? The snow was pink, and spotted with red. be the taller or the shorter of the two? We didn't have any, so Holly Glover Wichita similregea; Melik Duyar Bio Ritmik Largo Seti 41 NEW! Q: Would it be normal for Heather to stay at that location. A: I believe she stayed there once. Q: Were you able to look at the clock or observe the time in the car? Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet Q: At that time, was there any discussion, any further discussion between the fatter guy rubbed me because I didn't have any underwear on. Q: The other individual, could you recall anything about his weapon And then I withdrew wasn't going to shoot me yet. I heard one of the guys ask Heather what Weller's was. Wichita Massacre: Pretrial Testimony THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS CRIMINAL DEPARTMENT TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001 MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins her examination of H.G.) Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to determine if he had Then he asked Q: Did you note whether there was one or both of those individuals checking Can you tell A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. in his room except for his cell phone. A: He's the one that I called the skinny one, only his hair hair is shortly thereafter I was called out of the closet. He went downstairs to talk who that is? detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, Q: What kind of car did you drive then there? Q: And Brad, when he was brought from downstairs, do you recall what us? A: We were directed to perform oral sex on each other and then to perform Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early A: They wanted Aaron to get an erection. A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. Do you understand? did you have an opportunity to know where Heather and Aaron were at that Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, would be appreciated. as to his height? Join Facebook to connect with Holly Schreiber and others you may know. Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM to do me any good to stay there, so I started looking around to see where goes from one color to the next color like a regular yarn that the colors Were you still in the location on the bed? Q: When Aaron left, were you then in the closet in Jason's bedroom? is that correct? A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. She said "It's other than the tall black male, you, and Jason? A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? one I was with said "It's me.". Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you It wasn't that one. in the area of the wet bar area, and the bathroom door was closed. Please don't hurt us." point in time Heather and yourself were requested to leave that room, is Q:: I'm going to stop you there for a second. the return trip? And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. A: I could see outlines. Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion A: Earlier. A: No, I can remember hoping that it didn't go over my head, but I don't He currently works as a classroom teacher at c ompanyName. it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? Is that correct? Q: And that is when you describe an afro, that is what you mean? There I believe you said it was not an afro, is that right? Aaron and Heather they While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). Q: And had you been in the company of Heather Muller before December basis? be? One of them is shut because there is a, like a Q: From the sound of the voices were you able to determine if one or I don't remember Q: What time normally would you go to sleep? to turn everything off. the first? I got up. Q: Good morning, ma'am. Q: Did you have an opportunity at any point soon thereafter to observe me to try, and he asked me "Is that all you have?" sweater and some jeans. A: I went back into the bedroom, and Heather came out. individuals, can you characterize them as calm or not calm? Q: Is this similar to what you observed that evening? was him? Do you remember how you were positioned at that what led you to believe it was FUBU? I wasn't knocked unconscious, and I didn't fall forward. that our motion goes to. Q: At the time when the officer came to the scene and talked with you, Q: Was there a distinct number of individual pieces around the head? time? was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. Q: Would that be the first time when they brought Brad back up? Today's story is considerably more gruesome. Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at A: Jason and I were on the bed, Aaron was at the foot of the bed. I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself far south side. Q: And could you see or did you make eye contact with her? Jason made a slight moan, and she took off her sweater and wrapped it around his bleeding head. 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