My advice for you is to leave the country as soon as possible and research methods of securing proper visas and apply outside of Spain. Unless, you happen to be some countries named Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. When they swipe his passport, his entry date will no doubt come up and show he has been in Europe 11 months and overstayed quite a lot He will be saying that he has been travelling and in many EU countries as per what is agreed with the NZ bilateral agreement (info here -https://www.brenontheroad.com/new-zealand-bilateral-visa-waivers-schengen/) of course they may question him, but my understanding is that he should be OK if he exits from say France? Best of luck! Im a student in Germany and had a German residence permit, which expired in Oct. 2017. If shes leaving voluntarily its highly unlikely shed be If presented with a contract, your job will obviously understand this because its part of the usual process when getting talent from abroad. I have the following question: my wife overstayed his staying in Europe because I came here to study a Masters Degree in Europe and she applied along me with reason of family ties. So now, I have no legal documentation from Feb1st, 2017. Anyway, if you enter on your U.K., they cannot legally deny you entry since you are a citizen of a (for now) EU country. My boyfriend is originally from chile but already living in sweden with his whole family for more than 30 years now and so they are now a swedish citizen. My visa says duration of stay: 110 days which, starting from the date of my entry, expires on 28th April 2018. However, a couple friends here have said they think the 12 days in July also count towards my 90 day limit. Hello, I travel to EU a lot, I remember in July 2016, I took a plane from Dubai to Geneva and the border guy in Geneva told me: sorry sir I cant allow you to enter Switzerland, youve exceeded your limits by 2 days!! He certainly lost his right to stay when he crossed the validity (which he claimed i didnt know about these laws especially when you are student and you are paying for everything- which are huge amounts for fees, living and other stuff) and he cant go back not because he does not want to leave Sweden but out of utter shame or not getting the degree which would be twice hard for him to face the consequences in his home country because Everyone asks and he will not be allowed in future to travel anywhere by the family (acceptance or rejection of visa is a different topic). I recommend anonymously speaking with the immigration office where you are applying. You never mentioned what country youre from? E.g. What are your thoughts on leniency with a Schengen overstay due to Corona? Usually this means you need to leave as soon as possible if you have no visa to stay in the country and most importantly you cannot continue to work. Heres a link: https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/georgia/en/home/visa-&-entry-to-switzerland/visa--entry-to-switzerland-and-residency/visas/work-visa.html. I think something to keep in mind, is if your 3-month extension was for touristic purposes? I hope you are feeling good now. Theyre usually friendly and happy to help, and you certainly dont have to give them your full name. If I do, is it better to travel by train, or air? If caught a 2nd time, they could ban you from Europe. Very correct, just because I have not heard of someone not being allowed back into the Schengen Zone on a tourist visa after previously overstaying does not mean that it has not happened before. Hello! But since the bilateral agreement predates the time Poland joined the EU (2004), that in effect the bilateral agreement has authority over the new Schengen agreement. Im very confused with the situation Im in right now. I overstayed by 2 days because I was sicked and I can not moved or fly then I have to extend my stay. Because when the woman interviewd her in serbia she went thru her papers and she didnt say anything about it[like you are missing some papers or something as her duty comands her]. Did you get a Schengen visa for a certain amount of time? She needs to stay out of Portugal for 90 days. This is because Americans have visa waivers and come from a world power country. Hello! I am just came from Germany for the purpose of study. On the 91st day Ill be flying from Italy to Germany with a 21 hour layover, and departing from Germany on the 92nd day back to the US. Or will they fine me upon arrival? Hey Scott! However, I no longer will have enough time to obtain the Irish passport before my flight back to America on May 21st. Thank you so much for your help!!! Best of luck and happy holidays! Hi Lindsey, 12-day overstay. Would I be turned away from London if they see I have overstayed? You have to apply to do this before it runs out. So, since the end of July, I decided to living with my boyfriend while looking for another family. 1.- What do you think my punishment is? NZ will not turn you away, but if you are caught in Schengen, NZ control could obviously question your potential to overstay their visa after it expires. my next question is whether she will be banned to enter schengen again? In July I called and they explained me that unfortunately those 3 months on the visa were to organize my marriage and not an entry limit to Switzerland. Hey Jay! any help sincerely appreciated L! But just in the time between my most recent stamp and leaving Ive been only in France for over 90 days in itself. Hello Lindsey, And officers stopped me and started to ask me why I overstayed! Sadly he will need to leave the country is he is not eligible for a visa. Hello Lindsey, Loving all this quality advice you are giving. I have a Hungarian student visa( residence permit) till September and i already overstayed that in Germany cause i didnt know about this rule ( I know its not a excuse) anyway do you have any suggestion for me? Much easier to do things properly from the start rather than try to fix them later, but still I have to do something now. Under my circumstances, can I apply for tourist visa again for other countries? It says you can pay at the police station in the airport. Fines for exceeding the 90 day visa free period in Greece range from 600 to 1,200. Or a year? Please, make feel better and told me I have nothing to be afraid of , Hey there, Raaf! We want to get married because firstly we love each other a lot and secondly so I may be able to stay here and work. So he decided to go for a year more extension which is fine if you are able to show what stopped you from completing the studies in written. What about if we didnt fly and were not stopped at border control? I had to head back to the U.S. unexpectedly and left Spain on the day my visa expired. Hey Sue Thanks for taking the time to write in. I am currently riding my bike across France/Italy, and hoping to enter the balkans, but want to figure this out before I have to talk to customs anywhere. (But i already booked my flight) But he put a stamp on my passport (he said that this stamp will allowed me to enter frankfurt without any problems or questions ) !! Especially since work visas can take a couple months to process, you absolutely cannot be in Schengen on a tourist visa while this is processing because you are not immune to being deported if youre caught. We are both US citizens and naively decided to move to Spain without properly researching the visa situation. The other concern of mine is that my departure flight from Switzerland has a stopover at Geneva. Weve done some digging and found that according to article 53.1.a of Spains Immigration Bill, surpassing the 90 days could be considered a serious violation in the Also, make sure you do not enter any schengen country for the next 90 days to clear your stay duration. Hey! If my Slovakian citizenship is made official before my 90 day Canadian tourist limit is up, am I allowed to legally stay in Spain for longer than that 90 day limit? So, by leaving directly through Athens, if you have an entrance stamp in Greece, they could assume you overstayed. In 2015 when I came back to Nigeria from Spain, I wrote to the Italian Embassy and I explained what happened and why I overstayed but no reply from them till date and I decided not to push since it seems to me not to be a case. Thank you so much for the quick reply. If I was to just overstay my 90 days in Spain for a month or two until my EU documents are ready, what would be the consequences of this? The only other stamps are from Morocco. Are there any instances that your visa might cancel even if it is valid for the next 6 months? Save. Thanks to this Amazing blog. Don't know if there was a fine. Now I want to apply for a working holiday visa in another county (not in europe) and in the application form they are asking me if I have ever overstayed a visa. But depending on what the paper said, this could cause future trouble when applying for new visitor visas. Id appreciate your advice on my situation if you have a moment? Does my permit automatically expire after a divorce? I suggest calling the American embassy in Madrid to get an official clarification. Do you have any tips about leaving or reentering on the sly? Also, the fact that his passport has no stamp is going to cause a lot of questions when he exits. Yes, punishment will most likely be the same. I tried to do the process on my own, but every time I spoke with anyone in the residence office, I was told that I required different documents than what I had the requirements changed every time I visited the office, and I spent months acquiring useless documentation. If you want to speak more, feel free to email me via my contacts tab. Do you know what is legally ok to do? Do you think this would be a problem? I have got student visa for six month in Spain and I plan to overstay for a month. It sounds like she might want to leave the Schengen through Portugal rather than Spain. Hello Eunice! Can you try leaving a day early? Thats a good point about visa applications. Overstaying Schengen visas can happen quickly. I have overstay a visa from France in 2016 I stay there about 110 days Im U.S. citizen studying in Spain with a 180 days visa. Would it be better to enter through Portugal (couldnt find anything about their passport controls reputation aside from long lines) or would a direct flight to Spain be best based on their reputation for being so lax? Can they tell how long I have been home/ do they really check for that? can I return to Denmark to apply for a residence permit (which then gives me a bridging visa while its processed)? In Italy, you might have to pay between 5,000 and 10,000. She must exit Germany and re-apply from Canada or a country outside of Schengen. what should he do to avoid any problems (Fines, Jail, etc.). Thank you in advance, I got my Schengen visa today and the duration of stay is just 10 days whereas I have a visa for 24 days. My mistake was leaving out of Germany and not Denmark( I originally bought my ticket as a round trip in January). You cant just pay a fine and be done with it and stay longer. Your first ordeal was strange because technically the job should be setting you up with the work permit, and they know how long those processes take. Any advice would be much appreciated. There were no checks at either border crossing, it was like driving from state to state. shes italian and will come to the US where well get married, but if i was caught upon exiting the EU would this affect my residency application later on? However, some countries do not allow your touristic time after your student visa in their country has expired. and So Ive been illegal eversince. Hi! It is invaluable. Not sure why other people recommended Francethat country is a big no-no to try and leave from. Im a US citizen that has been in Germany for a couple of months. My advice is: Since he is not a resident in Germany, you should contact the German registry office and ask what they will accept as proof of address in lieu of a Meldebescheinigung. asshole604 5 yr. ago. I dont mind signing an agreement or whatsoever. You should get one, dear! You might need to apply from your home country. We will be leaving London around June 20, travel through Schengen countries until we reach Croatia early August, stay there for about a week, and head back to Schengen countries again (Italy, Spain). Reading this was helpful! The Spanish embassy then cancelled my application saying the background check had taken too long, and refused my second application although I had all of the correct documents. Hello! Just do not leave after! What kind of visa did you have? My flight to Greece is on the 15th of this month and my return flight to Barcelona is on the 21st. Last year I stayed there for a total of 92 days. Duration If we ( all us western countries) had no regulations there would be some pretty dire consequences when you think of people who would simply be immigrating here and there as they wished.. with no proof of support.. and having the place they land in having to take care of them. I would think that if you were "making every effort" to abide by the law, you would make sure that you were nowhere near the limits of the rule. Or are you choosing to have Corona as an excuse? Or, do airports not check stamps for intra-schengen travel (and only use passports for identification)? My partner is a Polish national who has been working in Spain for 1 year. To give you another example, the following is from the website of the Dutch Immigration Service: Illegal stay (overstay) I intend to (legally) live/work in Denmark. Can I apply for a German university in the following 6 months? Im getting 1 story from the stories and another story from the US embassy. For a little backstory to my situation, I originally came to Barcelona in the summer of 2016 but stayed here because I got married to an Italian. But travel with caution, because if Finland found out you left, it could be an issue. You can carry on your Schengen travels outside of Spain, however, on a basic tourist visa, but your time in Spain would be finished because you did not properly extend it before it expired. Anyway, for your current situation, it depends if you are allowed to leave the country while your visa is processing. This does sound like a different situation. Hope youre well! I was in Delhi this past March for work. Anyway, I flew in Portugal for my Master studies in 2017, my visa expired January 2018 (Im holding a Philippine passport). I am the founder and editor of Vagabond Journey. Its probably best to leave from a country you have spent the least amount of time in, like Italy. Im writing to you with a hope u will be able to help me and answer my question about Shengen Visa. I dont think you need to be a resident of Germany to marry a German citizen. Its if you are exiting (at border control at the airport in a Schengen country) and you do get caught. or should i send letter to embassy of switzerland? I had the capacity to go home to USA but chose not to because the situation felt more dangerous because of the rapid spread of the virus. I went through there this past Xmas and it was a nightmare at the control and they thumbed through my pages. However, you should still try to apply and make sure you have all your return flights booked bad weather is not a good excuse to overstay your visa next time! Do you know is Iceland lax? Best of luck! My visa was approved and i was given a visa valid until the 14th of August. Can you advise me? As regards to your second question overstaying in Romania wouldnt have any affect on if you can come and go from Schengen. Anyway, wish me luck on my way back home I just want to go back to my Boston . I am in Prague. Thanks for the great work you are doing. Thanks for writing in with your issue. I need to stay in Bulgaria until Dec 2018 for personal reasons as well. She cannot continue to stay knowing now she will not get an extension (because you cannot not extend an expired visa). So my stay in Shengen from 18th of June will be illegal. Thanks for explaining your issue. I entered schengen through the country that delivered me the visa and exit through another schengen country. I just want to make sure I wont have any problems leaving in December. This could be brought up in an interview. The d visa I am applying for is not schensch visa is a national D polish visa its 180/365 but when I I use this visa would they calculate the 180 days for D visa different from the schengen visa????? If they fine you for overstaying your visa, then so be it. You should apply for an extension before you leave for your trip. I am worried that if they reject my permit application what can I do .. Do if I get a work offer from some other firms and able to apply for a short visa from french consulate ?? Im a US citizen who has overstayed, flight home is Spain>Norway layover (so Schengen/non-EU)>US, and Im leaning towards letting that one go and buying a direct flight from Portugal home instead to reduce the chances of having problems. Ive been advised on best departure points in Spain from free legal advisor. I COMPLETELY overlooked the fact that everything is now computerized and that they could scan my new passport and see all the data from my old passportand see that Ive overstayed. As a traveler you are a guest in another country. You could have issues traveling around Schengen if they have reinstated some borders (like Sweden/Denmark). Thanks so much for posting about the Schengen rule, its very helpful. So I booked a flight to France to stay with my girlfriend for a couple weeks, and Im super concerned that my overstay will be picked up somehow. unpaid for entrepreneurs. Ive called embassies/consulates for Iceland, the Netherlands, and France (since France is where I entered and left from when I overstayed) and was told either they didnt know, or that after 90 days out I should be good but it was up to the border officers discretion. Sorry to hear of your holidays cut short from medical issues. You can search on bootsnall.com. remarks in the VIS/SIS system etc? Since Brexit, British citizens must follow the same rules for staying in the EU as other non-EU nationals like Americans and Australians. thank you for your post. It is when you are caught not leaving. What do you think the outcome would be if she flew to the UK? Any advice? I visited Netherlands/Belgium/France/Germany a few years ago, and overstayed by a few months. If yes, you violated your bilateral. I entered Spain through Madrid but found a cheap ticket leaving from Barcelona. Hello! Would this mean that technically I have not began the 90 day in 180 day period tourist visa? Your visa would be exhausted then. I was informed that my application was rejected due to a technicality in their system, and I had 15 days to leave the country and send them proof of my boarding pass, payment etc. there are many options to choose like study applicant or marriage but also i point to choose is other purpose. Anyways Im worried that Im not out of the clear and wondering if I will be fined or denied entry upon arrival for my next trip? He had all of the documents and everything lined up untill he made a huge blunder. I fly out from scheduled to fly out from Stockholm Sweden on the 4th of Jan. my passport way back then is philippine passport, now fast forward. But now the 90-day rule is in force will we have to leave by the end of March or has the rule been waived because of the difficulties in travelling? I have a flight back to USA a little less than a month after my 180 days is up. I would carry all your documentation with you for the Au Pair visa, and make sure you do not start working before your visa is processed because that will be considered illegal on a tourist visa. Hope this helps. I oversayed for 5 (total 95days) and officer asked me how long did I stay. Hey Jocelyn, it might cause more confusion, no doubt, but I dont think it seems suspicious because youre not trying to do something wrong. Do you have to go back through security when leaving a Schengen country to non-schengen (like from a Norway layover to the US)? If so then how long? Americans can get away with overstaying a couple days because their visas are not ones you have to apply for. Hey Conor! However if you know you have overstayed, you should be making plans on how you will exit instead of stay longer. I wish to visit Germany via bus for language purposes but from your above comments, its sounds risky and will affect long term objectives. Thank you so much for this post-it is so incredibly helpful. Hey Olu, sorry to hear that about your pregnancy. If you exit with an expired permit (as in its past the expiration date on the card), the border control will most likely stop you, because they do ask to look at your permit when you exit. It just expires after the expiration date, and if you are no longer living in Germany it is only permanent if you are still living in Germany. Thank you. But I would not worry too much about it, as I highly doubt that you will be hassled too much. if u can answer again thanks a lot, Hi Fahim, I have emailed you back twice. Or can I use the two weeks (or even just a few days) remaining out of the 90 to travel a bit before flying back? It is so often that we only see questions, and never hear the stories of those who got caught or dodged the bullet by a hair. I have a blog post about the perk of Dual citizenship here. This is one of their worst grifts. I am also wondering bcz, i am totally schoked. The new regulations set the daily charge for overstaying a visit, tourist, or residency visa at AED 50. Which means it was illegal in the country. Glad you made it out ok. Please advise. But you paid the fine, so I dont know why they wouldnt let you have a student visa. Just need some advice. I read so many ans which you give reply to pples and its very much helpful actually. If you continue to use this website without changing your cookie settings or you click "Accept" below then you are consenting to this. Hey! You see immigration in Amsterdam since it is your last Schengen country you set foot in You can expect 3 scenarios. Thanks for sharing. My question is, because she was convinced I overstayed for 10 months and seemed to have mercy by just letting me pass without making me sign any document or paying a fine or putting a banned stamp in my passport, I still dont know How can I be sure she didnt flagged me on the system I mean on her computer, I really try to remember if she scanned my passport or not, Im almost sure she did not but than again Im not really sure how and where officers do this, if they do it like a credit card . I tell him from France. If the answer is yes- If I enter Iceland on the 90 day, then get a residence permit, and stay for a year, am I able to travel through Schengen countries after the year in Iceland on a residence permit is done? Yes, I absolutly think that was the reason why the visa was denied. It will be up to them if they want to sanction you for overstaying by 1 month, or just let you go that is IF you get questioned. Definitely check back here. then back in 2015 , i went out through copenhagen airport. My US passport was stamped in France in Oct. 2017, and I was living in Germany the entire time. Can you please help me understand how this could be called overstayed if my visa was expiring on August 14th and I got out of Schengen area even before August 1st. I think theyll get progressively less lenient. Useful links: If you need to get a new passport, its best to get it before you apply for the Pareja de Hecho (because it might get put into the passport). Hey Stefan, border control could definitely stop you and speak to you for some time. Definitely do not overstay your tourist visa in Switzerland. Or will they know I over stayed and hold it against me? Hey! If you are denied on a basis of your overstay, then you can just appeal and explain your situation, and hope they will agree. Id like to ask also, when I have just arrived to Italy, we had a big quarrel with my bf, and my Italian visa was canceled. Although there are a lot of people who stay ignorant of these( intentionally or unintentionally). But now I have to leave. Hi, so i have a bit of a problem, I am currently in Bulgaria from Trinidad, and i am allowed a 90 day stay however i am leaving on the 91st day. It is unreal they would put you in that position. Hi Lindsey, is there any chance to extend Italian tourist visa for more than 90 days once after reaching Italy in local police station for Indian passport holder I want to stay there for few more days with my spouse who is currently pursuing training. They then told me I would know by post if the judge will decide if I am guilty of a crime or not. Hi Raafat Many people dont hear about the results of what can happen for an overstay, so much appreciated for sharing your story. will they give this information at airport when he is leaving the europe or no? Were you on a work permit? Im concerned about the fact that I have effectively overstayed my tourist visa, even if it was because of neverending bureaucracy; especially becuase Germany has a reputation for being strict about non-EU travellers. My visa expires on July 25th, 2017 and during July 15 until 20 Ill be visiting Croatia. Would be very grateful to hear anything you have to say on this. The application was completed and turned in through the Boston Irish embassy in September and I was told it would take six months to be approved. Technically, you should have left within 2 weeks of receiving your rejection letter, because on your exit if questioned why you waited an extra month to go home, and your answer is you waited until your fiance went on vacation, that will definitly not be a good enough excuse for them not to fine you this time. Hello, Mayur here. I have heard from Ministry of Foreign Affairs that I may be able to go to neighboring country to apply for Visa as an exception since I didnt apply for Visa from the US. I entered Italy and spent 1 night then flew to Spain. Seems like this visa issue is happening all around Scandinavia. You cannot apply for a short stay visa if you have been illegal for the past 8 months. Hi, I have a quick question that Im wondering if you can help with! However, it will not go past 1200 euro. try overstaying in the USA then u will change ur mind about overstaying 1 measly second!!!! I think youll be fine. 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